As an afterthought, some dealers will say the etching has been done, and the Adm fees must be on bill of sale.

This will be excepted by you, simply tell then to reduced the negotiated price by that amount to allow these amount on bill of sale.

Thank you so much Ray!! You are the man!

Ray, went into the dealer this morning and they didn't accept my offer so i walked. Gonna email you at paulsenray@yahoo.com (hopefully u still use this email).