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Re: colic prone gelding

Hi Heather,

D Carb Balance is an excellent supplement for the IR horse but it would require additional magnesium to treat the cresty neck that your horse has developed. And, since it is has other ingredients, it would not go well with any other vitamin/mineral supplementation.

Carb X is a better choice if you're already providing vitamins and minerals, because two ounces would provide 12,000 mg of magnesium and it also contains a herb known as gymnema sylvestri, which helps lower circulating insulin levels. To bring the magnesium up to a therapeutic dosage, you could add one rounded scoop of Quiessence.

Yes, the human supplementation is fine, in the meantime.

If we haven't already discussed it, be sure to have your hay tested for a low percent non-structural carbohydrates (NSC) -- less than 12%.

And no carrots or apples. Skode's treats are a wonderful option.

Keep me posted.

Dr. Getty
Author of Feed Your Horse Like A Horse

Heather
Thank you once again Dr. Getty! Just an update, my gelding is starting (again) with a cresty neck, he also has some small fat deposits elsewhere. The vet took blood to test for IR again. I'm concerned about laminitis, the vet said she uses Carb-D or D-Carb for her Cushings horses and that I could put him on that, just to be proactive. I know that you recommend the Quiessence. Is one better than the other? The Quiessensce won't do any damage, even if he is not IR, right? Until the supplement arrives, can I give him the human supplement of Chromium Picolinate and Magnesium? 4 grams of Chromium and 20 grams of Magnesium, right? Thank you again for your time and input!

Where are you from? Bayfield, CO

Re: colic prone gelding

Thank you Dr. Getty. I ended up ordering the Quiessence, but oddly enough, before even giving him it, his crest seems to be down. Maybe I'm losing it , but it does seem better, still there, but not that noticeable. At any rate, I gave him 4oz of the Quiessence today, his first dose.

The problem with testing my hay is that I am currently feeding from 3 different suppliers. The growing season was very poor last summer and thus I needed to go to different farmers in order to have enough. I'm hoping that won't be the case this year, I'd like to test the hay that I buy in June and if it is good, then buy all I need for the year. Crossing my fingers....

Thank you for all your time and input!

Where are you from? WI

How did you locate this forum? internet

Re: colic prone gelding

Hi Heather,

I agree with you -- if you don't have two to three months worth of hay supply, it really isn't feasible to have it analyzed. Sometimes, feedstores have a hay analysis report available. The hay provider may offer the report with the supply, which often gets filed in a file cabinet and forgotten. So, ask the manager if such a report exists.

And soon we'll have a new season, so I like your plan to have enough hay to make it worth your while to have it analyzed.

Regarding Quiessence -- if your horse's crestiness is subsiding, it may not be necessary to give a full 4-scooop dose. The maintenance dose is 1 scoop per 500 lbs. The treatment dose is 1 scoop per 250 lbs. So, somewhere in between may be more appropriate.

All the best,

Dr. Getty
Author of Feed Your Horse Like A Horse

Heather
Thank you Dr. Getty. I ended up ordering the Quiessence, but oddly enough, before even giving him it, his crest seems to be down. Maybe I'm losing it , but it does seem better, still there, but not that noticeable. At any rate, I gave him 4oz of the Quiessence today, his first dose.

The problem with testing my hay is that I am currently feeding from 3 different suppliers. The growing season was very poor last summer and thus I needed to go to different farmers in order to have enough. I'm hoping that won't be the case this year, I'd like to test the hay that I buy in June and if it is good, then buy all I need for the year. Crossing my fingers....

Thank you for all your time and input!

Where are you from? Bayfield

How did you locate this forum? CO