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Re: Help with Cranky Dominant Mare

P.S. I'm wondering if perhaps an ulcer might be involved in her behavior. She has always been girthy and grooming her stomach really makes her unhappy. My vet thought she had the type of personality that could be ulcer-prone. She eats all of her grain and hay and drinks most of her bucket of water every night. Perhaps adding Ration Plus to her supplements would help?

Re: Help with Cranky Dominant Mare

Hi Carole,

Thanks for writing and I can feel your frustration through the air waves!

There are several things you can try and I would really like to set up a time to visit over the phone with you personally to go over her situation, if you are in agreement.

But, in the meantime, we can still do some hit and miss, trial and error approaches. You mentioned an ulcer and I really can't say that is the issue because I have several questions to ask you and need more information about her history to assess if this is a likelihood. But, if you feel that it may be, you could consider giving her Amiquell. This will be very helpful in alleviating her symptoms. It's not as easy to handle as Ration Plus but it is well worth it.

I don't see Ration Plus as a good option at this point, simply because you are already giving her B vitamins and Ration Plus helps the bacterial flora produce more of the B vitamins.

There is another product that you could consider called Mare Alleve. It has magnesium in it, which is very helpful along with chasteberry and raspberry. Take a look at the herbal product you used and see if it is similar. If it is, then there's no point in trying a different brand. But, the magnesium is important for behavior, so either Mare Alleve, or better yet, Quiessence, which is much more concentrated in magnesium.

So, those are a few suggestions based on what you've told me. If the commercial feed you're giving her has any cereal grains (oats, corn, barley, etc.), then I recommend stopping that feed since the high level of starch can aggravate an ulcer (causes more acid production). And, in some horses, the highs and lows of blood sugar levels caused by high starch diets, can also create mood swings.

So, let me know if I can assist you further.

Dr. Getty

Where are you from? Bayfield, CO

Re: Help with Cranky Dominant Mare

Hi Dr. Getty,

Thanks for your response.

I've decided to try the Quiessence first. If I don't see any improvement after a reasonable period, I will definitely set up a call with you to discuss Grace in more detail.

You are right about the frustration. I love this horse and I know I made the right choice in purchasing her for dressage. She is just a complicated female and constantly tests my horsemanship. She's the most mentally challenging horse I've ever owned. I guess it's a girl thing

I'll let you know how it goes.

Carole

Re: Help with Cranky Dominant Mare

Hi Carole,

Glad to give you some more "food for thought!" Please keep me posted!

Challenges are not always comfortable, but you sound like you are definitely up to this one! Keep up the fine work.

Dr. Getty

Where are you from? Bayfield, CO

Re: Help with Cranky Dominant Mare

Hi Dr. Getty,

Thought I'd let you know that I think the Quiessence is doing the trick for Grace. Within 3 weeks she seemed more calm, and less tense and cranky. Even the dominant behavior subsided. Now I did work on re-establishing my dominance, but I don't think it would have worked so fast without the Quiessence. Of course, it is possible her behavior was hormonal as we're in that fall transition period, but I think the Quiessence really made the difference. So another problem solved by nutrition!

Thanks for your help, Dr. Getty. I hope you and your family, four-legged and otherwise, have a wonderful holiday season.

Carole

Where are you from? Massachusetts

How did you locate this forum? Friend

Re: Help with Cranky Dominant Mare

Hi Carole!

What an excellent report! I am so pleased to hear that the Quiessence has made a significant improvement in her demeanor. Oh, I'm sure your expertise had something to do with it, too! But, I expect that Quiessence contributed to her being better able to follow your instructions.

Thanks for the feedback!

Dr. Getty

Where are you from? Bayfield, CO